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Are private bankers too young?

3 June 2009

eFinancialCareers Singapore

The stereotype of the private banker in Asia is not the grey-headed Swiss-style industry veteran, but the attractive young charmer. Although banks have very recently been scrambling for senior relationship managers, their former hiring polices have created a largely youthful wealth-management workforce.

Just ask headhunters, many of whom say that in Singapore they have dealt with fully fledged private bankers in their late 20s or early 30s. These people would probably have been junior bankers if they were working in Europe.

“Private bankers do seem to be younger here than their counterparts in other parts of the world,” says Singapore-based Deborah Sawyer, managing partner of search firm Odgers Berndtson.

So why are private bankers so fresh faced? Despite the intense competition that graduates are under when applying for a private banking job in Singapore, recruiters estimate that banks there have made more than 300 entry-level hires in the past two to three years. And firms such as Credit Suisse run wealth management training programmes in the city state.

Another reason for the age differential is because large private banks like UBS took on lesser-experienced "privilege" bankers in an effort to boost their Asian headcounts during the 2005-2007 boom.

“They’re customer bankers or relationship managers at branches and they are promoted to handling premium customers and then they work their way up,” explains Annie Yap, founder of search firm AYP Associates.

Is having a young headcount such a bad thing? The policy has backfired on the likes of UBS which has had to cull those former privilege bankers who failed to make the grade. Now firms like Credit Suisse and Standard Chartered are demanding experienced professionals with bulging books of clients.

But private bankers defend their trade. Only top graduates are recruited into wealth management trainee programmes, so there is quality control.

"We do hire bright, young talent whom we train for various functions, including our three-year analyst programme. But we also have senior, highly experienced, battle-tested bankers who have seen the ups and downs of the market," says Morgan Stanley’s managing director of its private wealth management business in South-east Asia, Tan Su Shan.

What are your thoughts on the youthfulness and quality of private bankers in Asia? Let us know below.

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Those who stood by our values and not hard sell are only labelled as "underperformers".

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  • these comments seem to have a common theme about young bankers, which i agree with sincerely. however, did anyone ever consider whether management and mentors were competent in the first place? from what i see, a number of managers haven't even bought shares for themselves, let alone sell any products that they force their sales to sell. how can a young banker be molded by inexperienced management.

    secondly, the training at some places is remarkably pathetic. does anyone know the delta of a dual currency deposit with spot fx equal to the fv of the atm strike for 1month. i was told that this isn't important. what a complete joke.

    finally, to the young bankers, do yourself a favor and read Taleb's Fooled By Randomness. moreover, alpha should not be confused with beta. most taxi drivers do well in bull markets.

    john 02 Jul 2009

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  • To add, I agree Citibank is one clear example of how the company pushes the young bankers like crazy to rob their client at every opportunity. That was the reason why I decided to leave Citibank in Singapore. I have witnessed many casualties in both sides: a lot of bankers were asked to leave because of being "under-performers" and many clients financially suffered because of the advice from these (young) bankers.

    Harry 30 Jun 2009

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  • dear Chua

    please do not compare LKY to the puppies that don suits and smart ties and peddle toxic products
    I can travel back in time and still say LKY is one of his kind
    there wont be another one
    our young puppies have proven they will destroy wealth for a Beemer
    I would say that the hiring managers should task themselves to hire the experienced blokes, then groom the younger ones
    Citibank is for example one glaring example where the young has been taught to rob at every opportunity
    Today the same peddlers are turning up in every corner
    Stanchart ...to ultra smallsh shops such as Schroders....they are the next in line to avoid throwing your hard earned cash there

    Smahi 10 Jun 2009

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  • I am surprised many young recalcitrant bankers wrote here that they are the victims of the industry.
    They should ask themselves why are they working in this industry.  Nobody forced them to be bankers.  It is their choice.  What is their motivation for working in the banking?  The real reason is primal greed.  They should not deny that greed drives them to lie and cheat their customers.  Why are they complaining and whining now when times are bad.  They blame the bank employers for forcing them to sell and push products just like drug peddlers.
    There is a choice.  They are not bounded slaves to the banks, they sold their souls to greed.  Anyone with integrity and character would leave this corrupted and rotten industry.
    20 years ago, a female banking colleague complained that bankers are forced to push products like prostitutes.  Today, this practice has not changed, instead, private bankers become high class prostitutes in fancy offices.

    Byron 08 Jun 2009

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  • I am 30 years  and just left my role as a private banker in one of the top swiss bank.I`ve seen many people and articles condeming "young" bankers like myself as inexperienced and as salespeople who churns.Personally,I do not do that.I have always held my clients interest as the most important.However,even in the private banks,they are also hard selling products and demand aggressive revenues.Those who stood by our values and not hard sell are only labelled as "underperformers".

    So how is it going ever be fair for us? To hardsell,we`re labelled as churners,to truly care for clients,we are underperformers.In the end,I left the bank on my own accord as I did not believe in pushing campaign products to my clients whom have trusted and followed me.Come on,there are still good and honest young bankers around.Give us some credit.

    ela3 06 Jun 2009

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  • Let's get real....it's mone... caused by demand out stripping supply.  If you could get a senior PB at a competitive cost, don't you think they would?

    A real senior hire costs $300k p.a. or more.  I can get some "after 80" for about a third of the cost.  What you save in HR cost you lose in experience and expertise.  Show me a bank with a 30-something handling a megawealth client and either he/she is one of the rare rising stars or we got a real stupid head of PB.

    SilverHair 06 Jun 2009

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  • The banks' compensation structure rewards and drives money hungry young or older RMs. I have come across so many RMs who have, out of desperation to achieve targets, sold products to clients which are obviously unsuitable for them. Some RMs even asked, " Can I sleep at night"? and " I feel like someone who stands in the dark street corner selling my soul, except that I am wearing a suit."

    Coupled with a private bank which doesn't ask a potential new hire,
    "Describe the relationships you have with your clients" but instead, " How much AUM do you have that you can bring over?" and "  What can you sell best ?"

    Overbanked 05 Jun 2009

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  • Age should not be a determinate factor. It is the process and hiring criteria that requires changing. Are candidates being put through thorough, competency tests before they get the job?

    Honest answer: NO. Most jobs are given to the good looking/pretty & well-articulated candidates and of course the million dollar question of "how much AUM" can one bring to the bank comes into picture as well.

    Retail banks training have converted truck loads of so called "financial consultant or bankers" into product pushers. Constantly barked by mgt to "break their egg" and hit "favour of the month". The so called "Crème de la Crème" are ,in fact, champion product pushers! It is not uncommon for fresh grad to reach the rank of VP within 3-5 years. And it is such champions that private banks are hiring here in this region.

    Insider 04 Jun 2009

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  • Smahi,

    LKY is indeed a visionary...but would you say that again if you would to travel back in time when he was 25 yrs old?

    No matter how great a visionary, u have to walk that 'puppy' stage and puppies can handle big tasks too. Give them time...I believe , if you have children , try telling them they are nobody till they are 40 yrs old? Maybe you do?

    Chua 04 Jun 2009

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  • I agree. Anyone who has less than 10 yrs of experience should not be promoted as a banker.

    fwy 04 Jun 2009

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