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View from the bottom: my Hong Kong horror story

1 April 2009

In the second of her regular “View from the bottom” series, our columnist tells us about her trip to Hong Kong in search of work. The writer is a young Singaporean banker who worked on Wall Street and is now searching for a job in Asia.

I had been scheduled to interview for a position in Hong Kong as a replacement hire at an investment bank there. However, due to repeated conflicts with client meetings, my interview was rescheduled not once or twice, but three times.

Ultimately I had to fly back to Singapore without having the interview. Perhaps it was just an unfortunate series of events, but I thought the bank would have at least made an effort to meet me, given that I paid for my own flight and had a fixed departure date.

But alas, in this employer-led market, there is no shortage of candidates from which banks can cherry pick at their own convenience. They won’t be losing any sleep about not meeting me.

I did manage to see several headhunters in Hong Kong. While it came as no surprise that they are all being inundated with CVs from the US and Europe, I was shocked to discover that many foreign job-seekers are flying to Asia to meet headhunters, even before they have any interviews lined up.

Although a background in US or European financial services is sometimes valued in the Hong Kong job market, the recruiters also said that, more often than not, a lack of Asian work experience (or lack of fluency in Asian languages) is frowned upon. Having only worked on Wall Street - strike one against me!

Generally, the headhunters echoed the public sentiment that investment banks have both over-hired and over-compensated their staff. In fact, until very recently, the high pay and benefits on offer in Asia helped attract many senior US bankers to the region, resulting in less promotion opportunities in local offices. Some of these high-flyers also transferred in the hope that Asia would be a safer haven for their jobs and would be more insulated from the current crisis.

However, in reality, banking chief executives are based in New York, not Hong Kong, so their current priorities are with Wall Street. And their deputies in Asia are inclined to take a cautious, wait-and-see stance before embarking on any hiring plans here.

By contrast, I was told that some smaller institutions or regional banks - which are not so impacted by toxic securities on their books - are looking to expand their operations. This is especially true with respect to commercial banking or in-house M&A strategy teams.

Unfortunately on the investment banking front, with fewer deals in the market, hiring is concentrated on poaching senior relationship bankers, rather than juniors like me.

In fact, most headhunters reckon that Asia could suffer even more finance-sector layoffs. They might well be right. I have friends who were recently retrenched for the second time – that’s certainly disconcerting.

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  • The business environment in Asia is fraught with 'quan xi ' and business deals mostly depend on who-knows-who and who has done what , past current and will do in the future. More so now-- with the 2008 financial debacle originating from Wall Street , I-Bankers are more the focus and 'dirty word' would- be employers like to trample on given the chance. The writer should be better armed in developing general , down-to- earth banking skills and return to add credibility to a much frowned  upon  but necessary industry. Go back to school on market psychology and concentrate on risks and controls. Good luck  and  be humble always

    A Leong 21 Apr 2010

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  • The title is right. It is in fact a horror story.. because I have gone through similar circumstances in the past one year and I know what it feels like. Even with a double degree and investment banking experience, there are all kinds of excuses made by employers such as no PR, not enough local experience, etc., to reject my CV.
    Wherever I go in Singapore looking for jobs,  I'm told people with US/Europe degrees or work experience are preferred. But it seems like in your case even that is not sufficient, which is really surprising.

    Now I'm starting to think that these are just excuses made by companies who don't want to hire you and have found somebody else or hope to find someone else who fits some whimsical criteria.
    Falguni's case comes as a surprise as well since she's a CA with 6 years' experience and a PR too. Ironically, it gives me a little comfort to know that there are others in the same boat as I am in, because some employers do not understand this and treat you with skepticism when you tell them about your long unemployment period.

    useless whiz 18 Jun 2009

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  • Well,  its well know that I-banks treat there employees like shit,  so the treatment of candidates is even worse. Except for the money, why would you like to work in the business?  Its filled with money grubbing,  back stabbing slime would kill their own mothers for a promotion.

    sickofit 08 Apr 2009

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  • yes, bankers these days are brutally cold and greedy. why because their bosses drown them with targets targets daily, weekly, monthly....thank God its not by the minutes yet.  Until so much so we the traditional bankers who place high weightage on the days of old where "dignity and trustworthyness" are the norm.  One signature is enough. everyone keep their words almost.  Nowadays, young ambitious women and men come on board, don't know anything about investments start driving their RMs to bring in the bucks...daily weekly monthly or else get the boot!!!!!! some of the banks even mentioned in the comments that they are recruiting...be careful...plenty of devils in those places. wolves in sheep skin.  some CEO even recently retired. why?  so that his sins will not be exposed.

    fed-up 07 Apr 2009

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  • Please refer to the post by Square pants "'m a Vp in a global PB, formerly with a global IB, yet am searching for a shot at a Main Street firm. I am getting sicked of being perceived as a decease, and a menace to the economy/society"

    You are brutally honest when you suggest banking is a menace to society". A lot of HNW individuals would still remain as HNW individuals if not for the likes of Private Bankers.

    When I started a banking relationship with one of the many priority bankers, I brought home many trinkets and premiums like desk radios that don't work; and a wgole load of rubbish. They are good at unloading these valueless "made in China" rubbish that plays on our greed for things that are free but useless.

    Bankers, Housing Agents; Insurance salesmen; used car salesmen; timeshare resort telesalesperson are all the same leaque..Parasites..

    Nadaf 05 Apr 2009

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  • during your job search in these markets, i think you should measure your success not by the ultimate result but by not compromising on the effort that needs to be put in to get a job- you should be mindful of factors like how hard your particular domain is hit, unprecedented markets, domain flexibility (the people who say you need to be flexible in terms of your domain selection sometimes forget this is an employer's market not just in one domain but for every domain- so if you are an i-banker wanting to apply for a completely unrelated role- the employer will still not look at you no matter how much you are willing to compromise coz the employer can choose from x (x can vary depending on the field but it is definitely more than 0 for almost all domains in this horrible market)  number of made redundant professionals having exp. of that domain) but these factors should not deter you but should only egg you on to be more determined in terms of putting in the hours to get a job
    pls do not crib about the way employers are treating employees - i believe they are just returning the favors the employees did to them when markets were good and employees were dictating terms

    sonalbir 04 Apr 2009

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  • Hi
    In a way it is good that these times have come. It will bring many to mother earth. As always said "Industry is a great leveller" The current experience shows the importance of being a specialist. Important to note is that Specialist in a fundamental business domain/space. All those who were involved in those fancy market cap activity and overvaluating everything starting with themselves are affected. After all everybody cant be making money by lending money and making deals. The world doesnt survive solely on brokers(with/ without neckties). It will survive on real demand and real supply. Going forward focuss on your core special skills, if dont know them, identify them first, connect with your upbringing, the unique you, dont try to match a "Sunrise" industry" , in other words dont fake what you are not, talk basic, be humble, intense yet relaxed and the you will find a much peaceful place to work.

    Mandeep Singh Bindra 04 Apr 2009

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  • I'm a Vp in a global PB, formerly with a global IB, yet am searching for a shot at a Main Street firm. I am getting sicked of being perceived as a decease, and a menace to the economy/society. I'm amazed by the fact that you, having booted out from a Wall Street firm, is still on the hunt for a similar position, in such a wrecked banking job market. Wake up and smell the coffee girl. Life is more than just Banking.

    Squarepants 03 Apr 2009

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  • I heard some headhunters are doubling up as real estate agents; taxi drivers and waiters at banquets!

    Nadaf 03 Apr 2009

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  • It sounds like quite difficult to find a job in a bank in HK or Singapore nowadays huh?  Is it just for investment banking positions or corporate banking jobs?  What about in consumer finance or retail banking?

    Rodel Geneblazo 03 Apr 2009

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