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Are private bankers too young?

3 June 2009

eFinancialCareers Singapore

The stereotype of the private banker in Asia is not the grey-headed Swiss-style industry veteran, but the attractive young charmer. Although banks have very recently been scrambling for senior relationship managers, their former hiring polices have created a largely youthful wealth-management workforce.

Just ask headhunters, many of whom say that in Singapore they have dealt with fully fledged private bankers in their late 20s or early 30s. These people would probably have been junior bankers if they were working in Europe.

“Private bankers do seem to be younger here than their counterparts in other parts of the world,” says Singapore-based Deborah Sawyer, managing partner of search firm Odgers Berndtson.

So why are private bankers so fresh faced? Despite the intense competition that graduates are under when applying for a private banking job in Singapore, recruiters estimate that banks there have made more than 300 entry-level hires in the past two to three years. And firms such as Credit Suisse run wealth management training programmes in the city state.

Another reason for the age differential is because large private banks like UBS took on lesser-experienced "privilege" bankers in an effort to boost their Asian headcounts during the 2005-2007 boom.

“They’re customer bankers or relationship managers at branches and they are promoted to handling premium customers and then they work their way up,” explains Annie Yap, founder of search firm AYP Associates.

Is having a young headcount such a bad thing? The policy has backfired on the likes of UBS which has had to cull those former privilege bankers who failed to make the grade. Now firms like Credit Suisse and Standard Chartered are demanding experienced professionals with bulging books of clients.

But private bankers defend their trade. Only top graduates are recruited into wealth management trainee programmes, so there is quality control.

"We do hire bright, young talent whom we train for various functions, including our three-year analyst programme. But we also have senior, highly experienced, battle-tested bankers who have seen the ups and downs of the market," says Morgan Stanley’s managing director of its private wealth management business in South-east Asia, Tan Su Shan.

What are your thoughts on the youthfulness and quality of private bankers in Asia? Let us know below.

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Those who stood by our values and not hard sell are only labelled as "underperformers".

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  • am 27 and alreayd have 5.5 yrs of work exp in wealth managment ... so whats wrong in mving to Pvt banking now ? Its about work exp and AUM that you can get in :)

    123abhijith 03 Jun 2009

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  • I recently just went into a French Bank based in Singapore and a walk around the bank made me realized that there's a lot of young fresh faced private bankers in the scene. Some of them were even wearing shirts that were oversized for their body. That's because they are so young and they still have this "lanky" look from their teens. The moment I looked at them, I don't even have the confidence to even engage them as my bankers.

    Talk about hiring top graduates from unis as private bankers. I do not deny that hiring based on academics ensures that the bank gets the top brains but private banking is not about that. I want my private banker to be the kind who has been through at least two economic slowdowns and truly understands what is relationship management.

    Han 03 Jun 2009

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  • these days going for gray hair is a lot better than bosoms...pardon the pun...tell me and look me in the eye : has any of these youngsters ever even bought a stock or a bond for their own?
    I rather then select a PB that has some ex traders dispensing at least some market view, a bit of capability to explain momentum and tactical trading...most of the big banks UBS CS etc all adopt a churning mentality. To say they provide Swiss PB services is off the mark

    Oldie 04 Jun 2009

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  • I fully agreed that all bankers should be battle tested in at least 2 full economic cycles to really understand the markets and make intelligent decisions.  This means a total of 10 to 15 years of experience.  Someone with 5 years experience is qualified for the back office, serving coffee, or washing toilets.  It is just not who you know becuase there are ethical responsibility to your clients as well.  This financial crisis, and future crisises, is caused by stupid young reckless, greedy, arrogant bankers.

    Old Hand 04 Jun 2009

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  • To be fair, most young priority bankers were trained to be aggressive in sales. When come to private banking, if they were to transfer the same mindset over, chances are, they will have many unhappy clients who feel that they are being hard sell, especially in a bear market scenario.
    The banks and the young private bankers have themselves to blame. The hirer just wanted to make up the headcount in the bull years, thinking that the market has no where to go but up. The young bankers think that they are up and coming wealth managers and the clients will beg them to manage their money. When the market came down on both of them, they both suffered.

    kristan Lim 04 Jun 2009

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  • my personal thoughts are that the industry in Singapore is structured in such a way that favours churn vs building relationships. just ask yourself how many RMs have been cycled through you from the same bank.

    I think that RMs should be responsible for their actions. Screw ups that involve ill-informed and consistent hardselling tactics should be publicly announced.

    Why such a hard stance? Do we have to go down this name-and-shame track? Well, if accountants, engineers, analysts etc ALL have bodies that publicly govern them and publicly revoke licenses. I don't see why a bad RM/PB can easily hop from one bank to another, burning one customer after another.

    Moreover, RMs can handle significant amounts of cash. Why should the consumer (not so rich, rich or ultra rich) pay the price for their continuous misdeeds. I iterate "continuous" because everyone makes mistakes. However, you and I know that there are those who are just incorrigible and deserved to be axed to prevent more damage to people and the bank.

    buldozer 04 Jun 2009

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  • It is never wrong to hire top graded fresh graduates to join and to be train as private bankers. It is really a numbers game. Whoever can bring in those numbers, those AUM, they can be considered as "potentially something".

    However, experience is still the number one callibre that any private bankers possess. Experience encompasses the banker's selling skills, market exposure, product knowledge (over the years), cliente (not just about the AUM, but the physical numbers of clients) and the economic cycle they been through. And of course there are many other factors contributing to these.

    In many cases i seen; many young bankers hit and run. They left their job hastily. It is as though they were just "giving it a try" on the industry that looked glamarous to them. Not very wise and lack of determination.

    And of course I'm a young banker as well. And I do hoped that the market leaders can be fair to young bankers like us and open out more routes for us. I hope those fresh business graduates can really study  nd give a deep thought of what they really want. Do not follow the crowd being private banking and treasury functions of the bank are glamourous jobs.

    tiantr 04 Jun 2009

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  • LKY was 36 when he was prime Minister for Singapore, was he too young for the task? Would we have rejected a good PM if we used age as a gauge of his potential? Though not all the young bankers will make the cut but remember this, the mature and successful will not be where they are if people did not give them the chances to give their best shot when they were younger.

    Chua 04 Jun 2009

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  • I wasa full time floor trader with my own company. I have 17 years of trading experience and until SGX closed the trading pit in 2005. I was then 41 years old and have applied for RM and private banker and was unsuccessful. I have went through up and down of the market with vast knowledge on equity, derivatives and options. Trading in SGX, LIFFE, CME, CBOT, HangSeng, NYSE etc and definetly my learning curve will be short. However was informed from insider that they are only interested in younger applicants.
    I once went to the bank and was served by a couple of very young RM, who are only interested in making the commission and have little knowledge of the product. I was amazed that they are earning good monies and yet I have to work in other industries earning the amount that cannot even qualified for credit card, a 90% cut compare with my previous pay. The industry should comprises both young and older experience RM and private banker. A well balance team that can cater to different clients and also the younger group can learn the experience from the older staff.  Our PM was working with all the old guards and that's  how he progress along the way. We still need our MM right?

    Joe 04 Jun 2009

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  • How can you compare LKY to all this?
    C'mon he is a visionary
    Young puppies in the PB biz arent

    Smahi 04 Jun 2009

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